Thursday, 23 July 2015

Fixed game at challenger tour!

Just read in a forum that the Kazaks (Golubev and Nedovyesov) fixed their match (fixed match) at a challenger tournament in Netherlands. Golubev won the first set with 6:2. So far, so good. While he hold his serve in the second set without any problems, the odd drifted away. He started the 2nd set as a 1.26 favourite and was trading at almost 3.00 at the score of 6:2, 4:4 (see the chart on the left side)! Like planned, Nedovyesov won the tiebreak of the 2nd set and later the match...

It seems that the world number 95 (Nedovyesov) and 156 (Golubev) don't earn enough as tennis professionals.

This is one of the reasons why I don't trade challenger tournaments. Nevertheless I am a bit shocked, how players around top 100 ranking can do that. That's a behaviour without any sportsmanship. Unfortunately nothing will happen. For me these two Kazaks are just stealers and cheaters. They definitely found a place on my "wall of shame" beside Ulas Agzikara (the scammer). Fortunately I was no victim this time. All the backers of Golubev were stolen today, what a disgrace!

Here you can even find a longer summary of the story: How to fix a tennis match (twice!)

Well life goes on (for me and the ones which lost this bet)... as a conclussion: Never risk too much with any trade.

15 comments:

  1. There are thousands of matches in ATP and WTA...those who go for challengers are desperate ones who just gamble...good that this happened...

    Vivek

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    1. If you tolerate this, you are the same mug like the cheaters. Of course you can trade WTA/ATP main tour, but that doesn't make the fixed match better.

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  2. I am not supporting or in favour of this.My point is simple better avoid these when you can...why to go and mug your head in the mud knowing that its the pig who is gonna win in the end no matter how dirtier it gets.
    At least i have never encountered any fixing in main tours, although faking injuries and abandoning of match is still doubtfull and costs you but then you can't do anything.

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    1. Most of the losers were perhaps courtsiders. In this sense you are right. I don't understand it neither, how you can bet this match. Nevertheless the fixed game is a crime.

      At main tour you see more tanking or injury fakes (give up without real reason), but is more a lack of mentality than an obvious crime. The fixers make money on costs of other people/bookies. Well the bookmakers make enough with their margins, but for private persons is not fair. ATP should take actions. The tiebreak of Golubev was so an obvious tank, even without the Betfair Chart you could see that he lost it on purpose...

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  3. Cassini lost me many money from tips. Please help me to get it back . I dumping Soccer and now play Teniss

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    1. I helped you enough. Sorry to hear that you are still the same unsuccessful gambler. Enough is enough (you can remember Momo talking to Fabio :-)), we are done now with the Cassini topic. Contact him when there is a problem, I am not interested in these stories. Good luck to solve your life!

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    2. If what you are saying is true then its you only to blame. You cannot follow anyone to earn money.There are no tips as such, all are duping ones if they are so good why they will give you tips and earn money(think about it).Whether its Cassini or Peter Webb or Mark Iverson all of them are as good and as bad as a normal trader.The big advantage they had that they started way back in 2006-08 when betfait markets provided lots of loopholes to exploit and make bigger cut in the pie.Now that markets and become extremely matured and water-tight that your percentage profits are reduced drastically.
      Make your own way to swim and don't follow any others technique and tips.All bullcarp is there

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    3. Yes, the markets are tougher than ten years ago. If you just follow a tipster you make a mistake. If these guys would be so "intelligent" than they would make their money with own bets.

      You have to find your own way. Nobody with a successful system will tell you about. If he would do it, the edge is gone. I still believe that I can succeed, but is really difficult and hard work. There is no teacher, which helps you. Everything works by try and error.

      Who pays for tipster services is naive. Most of them are really expensive without much success. One exception is perhaps Tradeshark, he gives you good inside at tennis trading. For a rookie is good to follow him for a while. I did it and I don't regret it. He is a fair, honest and hard working guy.

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    4. Sorry but I disagree.

      I agree that a lot of tipsters are very expensive compared to there success, but there is a lot of good tipsters out there. You should take a look at Sportpunter for example and his results (long-term also - many years), just google him if you don't know who he is.

      Secondly, if they can get there bets on and there is still money for others, why not provide tips? Where as betting income can go up and down over the short term, even if its profitable long term, having a steady income stream every month from selling tips offers a bit of security.

      Especially for those who bet for a living, full-time.

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    5. Of course you don't agree. You are also on the way to sell picks. :-) Every client has to decide if he/she is willing to pay for such a service. I have my doubts about it. In my opinion the sellers make the most money with the payment of the customers.

      I would invest money for stocks picks, but that is a different story. It's a long term investment. At sportsbetting I don't see the benefit. At least not for me... Let's say it like this. Perhaps for some persons it's okay to pay. In my opinion there are a lot of sharks (which are just interested in their own money) around at betting/trading. The only way to succeed to long therm is to learn it by yourself.

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    6. It's more a case that in the way of trading atleast, that people who provide trading material, don't provide a good enough service. If people provided actual video's explaining there processes etc, what there doing or looking for. Unfotunately you don't see that to be honest.

      As for sportsbetting, that can be a good way to invest. You just need to follow several good tipsters and spread your risk (money) amongst them, not follow just one sport/tipster and don't overexpose your bankroll.

      It's no different than basic rules for investing in stocks, if you approach it properly and look for a long-term investment. Do you think successful people who make money investing in the stock market, invest in one stock or company only!

      I think we will agree to disagree!

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    7. Yes, I agree... I am invested in more than one company. Sportstrading or betting is for me another story. You could see ithat at the Cassini soccer competition. I think only five of twenty tipsters made profit. Probably not even the commission was included. Only 2% of the people are successful in sportsbetting... I think the rate for good tipsters is not much higher. At stock market you have to be pretty dumb not making a profit long term. You can't compare this two things in my opinion. Stock market or better let's say the companies create value, at sportstrading is no value at all. The money just changes the owner...

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  4. Most of the free tipsters are much better then the tipsters who charge. Paying a tipster does not mean you will get a quality service .

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    1. Yes, that's true... I prefer to read forums and compare the analysis with my own ones. Some people are too lazy and are not enough patient. With trading and/or betting you can only succeed when you invest a lot of time. There is no free lunch. The shortcut doesn't work. It's such a long way to go. I think that is the main reason why only a very small part of traders are successful. Buying picks, I have my doubts... but everybody has to find his own approach.

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    2. Your right, I agree that paying a tipster does not mean you will get a quality service.

      At the end of the day, it is down to the individual to decide if it offers VFM (Value for money).

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